Why do we all invariably say Ah, but you dont know my pastor, I love my pastor, hes different. Even assuming the best of him (or her), youre just flat asking for it when you set up any sort of king position that does not exist in the New Testament. And sadder yet many cant see it! Maybe he is off balance. After all, they could have easily marketed themselves, promoted themselves, and charged money at the gate to hear their Holy Spirit inspired messageswhy didnt they take advantage of people? They actually have a very limited impact. It is also a biological code. I grew up Church of Christ however; denominations mean nothing to me. We do need bread from heaven we live by the Word of God; it should come from the pulpit, but God can use anyone to bring forth a word, anywhere. Who would we be seeking after with all our heart, soul, and mind in a worship labeled service. Just being a preacher doesnt make you a pastor. @ Headless Unicorn Guy: and the Academy is supposed to serve the Church. But if somebody puts out substance I will sit on the pew and put money in the plate and forgive an awful lot to get it. Abandoning the Arnold Smartarse joke for a moment (! We should be supporting not admonishing! Platt has clarified the news is not an immediate resignation; he has asked trustees to begin the search for a new president, and will Law Prof wrote: What I see happening is horrifying. This is why ecclessiolgy and philosophy of ministry is so important. It certainly wasn't dealing with parents extreme mental illness for 30 years, health problems of both sets of departed parents raising my sister when we had a new baby and the teenage junk she put us thu, it certainly wasn't when my husband lost the use of arm to a accident and spent a year at p.t , it certainly wasn't when my accident caused me a bum leg and I still do my housework dragging it around. Find a church in which the pastor knows you name and truly cares about you-not an abstract you who is just a part of a mass of faces. I sometimes despair at being such a talentless, beached whale of an apology for a wordsmith. He once preached a sermon on Mothers Day about biblical motherhood, and it was all about stay at home moms. I literally LOLed. They say the importance of the sermon is a reason they cant have any interaction with the congregation. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments and what were his commandments if not both love God and neighbor and also go ye into all the world . Augustine of Hippo, author of The City of God? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HPqDaKajSnQ David Platt unfortunately comes across as manipulating and disingenuous. WebSpeech disorders affect roughly 11.5% of the US population, and 5% of the primary school population. The reason we should learn names is twofold. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are exercised in a corporate setting. So if it is the means then why are people upset when Platt says that people need to get with it regarding the means? Surgeon was able to do a one-step resection without a colostomy. I wonder when. Thats better left to the students he and Piper appeal to at their annual Cross Conference. My problem with the tax breaks for churches and staff is they dont want government intrusion but then want to keep special exemptions. But they are the foundation to faith and give definition and motivation to service (in light of His great love). It was a hard time to be an officer in NYC with the drug problems Check it out on our blog as well as http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com. He will show up on Sunday morning and preach about 30 or so weeks in the year. Its a lie that endures because the congregations think that should be how much time a pastor spends on the sermon. Probably never will. And like I said, making the pulpit and the weekly sermon the center of our spiritual lives seems odd to me. Both Mark Driscoll and Matt Chandler at one time were spokesmen for Docent a company you pay to research and write sermons for you. I am not convinced the humility David Platt exhibits is real, considering his celebrity status and the lack of persecution from the world. I believe he is fitting in quite nicely with the harlot institutional church, using the Name of our LORD for his own personal glory. Also, most pastors who are doing pastoral care/visitation/counsellingi.e., actually working with their congregations are not going to have 20-25 hours of sermon prep time. In the circles described here, the same can be said of job-titles ending in pastor; you get the honour and privileges of ministry, without the price and responsibility. Could you comment on that? This year Ive been watching 5 churches that broadcast their worship live on Sundays. My problem with the tax breaks for churches and staff is they dont want government intrusion but then want to keep special exemptions. But, and this is key: most of the day-to-day organizational leadership in large organizations and churches is done by choosing good people in both places. My guess is theres some bigger strategy going on. Based on social media, not everyone is excited about it. Which is why (for me anyway) labels behave more like a fluid than a solid. I don't think he has a speech impediment. I dont know what triggered you to interpret have to have a man from my text. Hmm-methinks my upbringing has given me an entirely different take on what the preacher should be. If a merger is in the works (someone at SBC Today suggested that might be the case and was chided by a writer at SBCVoices for writing it which made me think its true) Ezell seems like the likely candidate. I met him the first time his visited this spring and he has remembered me and called me by name ever since (something akin didnt do for the 12 years we have been there.) Im sure the new name for the SBC has already been determined because Southern and Baptist and Convention is not going to work. Jimmy has a unique voice, to say the least, which has some fans even asking if he has a speech impediment or is hard of hearing. Or he saw the amount of resources that McLean Bible Church has and was to sway their donations. Or do you mean the Mega New Testament Church model, in which the large full-time staff are comfortably paid wages from the offering baskets of the local believers (believers that they must manage) especially the ones who are sharing leadership with them on a non-paid basis, fitting it around the hours they work to earn money to live. I wouldt read too much into that experience. for those working normal jobs in the community. He is just a big idea guy. One could have successful ministry (cast out demons, heal, & build numerical flocks), yet be told to depart for He never knew you (Matt. These pastors faithfully execute the responsibilities of their jobs. . According to SBC This Weekhe is only going to teach (give sermons) and will not do anything else in the church. Personal study is critical, and if a pastor can get the flock to let their fingers do the walking, then he has done a great service. I had often wondered whether they just liked to hear themselves speak? There were no condolences from the church, nothing. The church needs to be contemporary, right? Well, I think its clear what the problem is. April 2004. I am a member of MBCbut now a former member as of today. Podcast in Person reminds me of the scary movie. Its all part of the business. GSD, @ Dave A A: I used to belong to Davids former church in Birmingham and it took me several years to figure out what he was doing. Imagine how differently the church would impact the world if the money spent on buildings and salaries went to meeting needs? To slightly turn the phrase, may your non-tribe increase. Translation: I want the congregation to pay me (out of their hard earned money) to read John Piper and Gospel Glitterati books all day and fob off the real work to someone else. Spy They also repeat the same series of sermons at the same time each year, and the series are the same ones that youll hear at other Arc churches. http://www.christianebooks.com/TheGrahamFormulaDownload.pdf. @ Bill: The building which was on the tax rolls is now removed causing a decrease in the tax base and higher taxes for others. He feeds the one that gnaws him most.. . Being paid an honorarium for each sermon is not a salary so one wonders if this is all spin. I actually timed it once. my view is that You could pull a gateway and just pipe them in. We are in a church in which the pastors do show love and humility. Does everything have to be done according to the Bible? Insidious idolatry always tries to put the created thing ahead of the Creator. One of the benefits this boundary has brought to our church is that we are very clearly not a pastor-centered church. "At Grace Church, there are three things and ONLY three things that I do: I meet with the staff/apprentices, I preach about 70% of the time, and I lead a small group in my home. They went to provide medical expertise and other practical support to Nepalese men and women while they preached the gospel. only 1 church in my town would let me hold a musical recital at their facility. But it is so much easier than getting off our collective duffs and doing our own jobs, huh? My husband and I attended the Sunday school class in one church but attended services in another. injury or illness that affects your vocal cords. I could elaborate, but the post would be too long. I dont see a vested authority required in scripture. Learn from the Primitive Baptists and early Holiness folks (not todays clergy model) and early Quakers (not todays nonChristian version.). One thing that does often seem to be missing in men and women these days is Godly wisdom. Ministry to believers is creature-centric. The non-denominational fellowship had its services in I think it was the auditorium of a middle school in McLean, VA. As I recall, the teaching was Bible-based and for the most part spot on. As a former member of Brook Hills where David was once my pastor, I am concerned about this. Because healthy community is missional. So, a bit of a frustrating afternoon/evening trying to instal jUnit on the Mac. most megachurch sermons are shallow and quite devoid of teaching of Scripture. But at some point, arent we supposed to grow up into some degree of self-reliance, as far as the scriptures are concerned? But we didnt expect him to know us all by name, succor us through the tough times of life, or somehow be there for us 24/7. I will grant you that he spoke at other church in the UAE and other countries during some of those weeks, but the fact is he is paid a salary by the UCCD members to be the senior pastor at their church. That has even helped me turn this not quite the usual parishioner into someone that I am truly glad to see every Sunday. Sort of forcing the choice on the people is what it looks like to me. @ ZechZav: Today isnt news to Him. I believe Christians (the Church) have different responsibilities in the Church, not authority. The big boys all use research services to do the heavy lifting. Im familiar with the loophole, it is another one of those things that violates my classical liberal sensibilities as does the property tax exclusion that no other non-profit enjoys. Maybe a thread on ecclessiology would help define terms and roles it is sorely needed in the contemporary scene. McLean Bible Church was obviously looking for a high profile name to be their teaching pastor. Im astonished this is not the done thing, at least in my town. My concordance doesnt include an entry for paid pastor. He had an 8 week hiatus in July and August, nice work if you can get it. The salary thing is often a deflection. I dont know of any other job where an employee is granted 2 months of vacation after working for 6 months. Of the available 52 weekly Friday morning sermons (church in the UAE is held on Friday, Sunday is the first day of the work week) Folmar spoke at exactly half of them 26. http://www.ntslibrary.com/PDF%20Books/A%20Defense%20of%20Calvinism%20by%20Spurgeon.pdf I disagree. Her health took a turn for the worse and she past away while in intensive care. While he was at Brook Hills it was practically heresy to disagree with David.). I do see the Body of Christ doing all those things, and more, but not paid clergy. He would make a great traveling speaker, which is what he was before he came to Brook Hills. @ Hope: Did anything ever become of this at the IMB? Its soft texture conforms to you when you grasp it! They are also quite able to live in the tension where not everyone is miraculously healed. As much as I fault 9Marks, one of the things that Mark Dever got right was a panel discussion at SBTS many years ago about multi-site churches. I called the church to make the funeral arrangements and notify the pastor. Have you seen what their next conference is going to be? How does this work? I have said for years, that the problem with many of these pastors is that they want to be Evangelists like Billy Graham, but they want the security of a permanent church. theres no way it could really take 20-25 hrs per week!!! Thus, the model in the New Testament is shared leadership. Thats interesting. When he was three my son once told a woman in the checkout line that I once threw him like a football. This is a predicate. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe it comes from living through two church blow-ups, and narrowly avoiding another, but I am nervous when a church is seen as the focal point of anyones spiritual life. I bought my house and they promptly jacked up what it supposedly was worth. Then I had to remember all the sermons I had listend to and how deeply moved I was by his heart for Missions and Jesus. We are to go into all the world and BE witnesses. Please preface it with, As the New Testament CLEARLY shows in XYZ. Platt and his team are also reorganizing the board and the IMB is going through significant change. You both nailed it to the wall! The other day on a Facebook page that I like, the post was a political one. The church there is made of people like us; its not free of difficulties or personalities. Then have an affair and take a sabatical for recovery purposes while your church still pays you. The flock is right in holding its paid shepherd role accountable, sadly lacking today. Its like a code for the party apparatus. At the risk of opening up a rabbit-trail of dislike for Mr Warren, he is at any rate correct on this, and he lifts the lid on something that needs emphasising much more often than it currently is. Im sure they could help. The interim setup is weird, the IMB Trustee statement is really weird, and the Platts have moved their kids to MBC. He thought it might help me to understand what good seminaries teach about being a pastor. He speaks very quietly and sometimes it is hard to make out what he is saying. Preaching is fun. My Word as precedence comes from conviction that faith comes by hearing the Word of God. Just where can you find all these multitalented people who are biblical scholars who can do all their own research, have a commanding ability at teaching, are people persons who are adept at counseling and hand holding and socializing (three different things there) and who will work 80 hours a week for minimum pay and who refuse to delegate but do it all themselves? Being hired to spend your week writing sermons and you lie about it and let someone else write them. The impact on the muslim world is accomplished very slowly through sincere friendships made through contacts by normal working people. Yes marketing is creating more customers, and increased investment in distribution helps to deliver the product and access to more markets; but a shifting of resource allocation and cost-cutting measures are needed. I believe they prevailed. With a seminary degree???? hows your son doing, bridget? He demonstrates his attitude that he can dress down for Sunday service. It is like they think they are crossing some sort of line if they drop their guard and form genuine relationships. David Platt (pastor) David Joseph Platt is an American pastor. He is currently the Pastor-Teacher at McLean Bible Church, and he is also the author of the New York Times Best Seller Radical: Taking Back Your Faith from the American Dream. Platt released a follow-up book, Radical Together: Unleashing the People of God for the Purpose i could care less about your career. For me personally, it takes faith to be known in a church. They (501-c3 religious entities) want all the benefits (infrastructure, free speech protections) of a progressive democracy under the rule of law, but none of the responsibilities. Mahaney? I remember reading a novel years ago in which one character was into transcendental meditation; and another character (probably speaking for the author) described him thus: You get the comforts of religion without the responsibility. Im all over the continuum insofar as views go. The lure of preaching reminds me a great deal of Solomons adulterous woman in Proverbs 7, luring a simple youth to his destruction. Or to paraphrase Dilbert: PHD student. WebHearing Aid & Speech Issues Explored. If you had a church in a city that had been owned free and clear for a 100 years it would end up being impossible to run if it wasnt flush with cash. That kind of New Testament model? My guess is that they are going to start monkeying around with what is being taught. Scripture also uses terms like laborers together with God. Whats up with this? How differently the Word would be preached if nobodys mortgage depended on tickling itching ears? What I see happening is horrifying. Does not. Hmmmis there NO one in the UK and/or Ireland who can speak at the FIEC Leaders Conference that an American has to be imported? This is true. But I know I cant do that forever. +++++++++++++++++++++++. Dont you dare tell me what to do unless you have a reason that I approve. I ran in a 5k on Labor Day where he won the 40-44 division. It is an honor to have your presence and your concerned comments here at The Wartburg Watch. Some churches in my area have a Farmers Market on weekends in their parking lot. Look to Him & His word and learn Honorable Little Christ'(tm) , share what youve learned with others, The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xysVNigCsU, Has MBC been corrupted from the simplicity of Christ ? Head pastor, lead pastor, teaching pastor, senior pastor, preaching pastor, associate pastor, assistant pastor, worship pastor, music pastor, youth pastor, college pastor, building services pastor, executive pastor . I appreciate so much the need for discernment and advocating for victims, but I dont see any crimes here, just a lot of fault finding where there really doesnt seem to be any fault. @ Deb: @ Gram3: The ecclesia, the called-out ones or faithful body of believers, is the Church separated unto the LORD. All the best! Unless you show me some passages that demonstrate it was the norm. Like your husband, I am deeply touched when a pastor knows my name & uses it in a kind way. Yes, if nothing else I wonder how much of a burden these self-acclaimed superman leaders put on the rest of us who cannot seem to do as much as they do. __ I believe they will be held accountable. I dont like Platt. Ok, maybe Im missing something but hes offering to preach for free, the church is being very wise in theyre decision making, David Platt knows his family and what he needs to do to spend time with him. Wow, I really hope he does not return to full time pastoring. TEDS, while non-denom, is still owned and funded by the E Free. Something feels very wrong about this transition and I am less than overwhelmed by Platt. And, sometimes, you get the pleasure of seeing their petty responses to someone that they have no other way of harming. Well just have to agree to disagree. I think I now have the answer. unable to endure sound doctrine of bitter, the roughage of whole bran, the artisan heavy-bread with its uneven texture and low-glycemic index but a lasting satiety which sustains the hungry soul! Is Lons final act his final rock drop by event'(tm) to take MBC, its 25,000 people and the whole of the Washington D. C. area for a dark closeted stealthy ride into Calvinisms Dystopian fake gospel? David Platts mission, whether he realizes it or not, is to make MBC a social justice church. I dont know much about them beyond that once TAG disbanded I lost contact but a friend of mine did attend CJs church and said he was a Calvinist. Theyve got control of enough income streams, they can make what seems like a selfless move and still get paid while taking strategic control. No worries, Arnold. Is there anyone who has a word from the LORD? I would like to say to all of you. Those things cannot be torn apart and pitted against each other; they are part and parcel of the whole. https://fiec.org.uk/events/event/leaders-conference-2017. Is it any wonder why those of discerning tastes are leaving the brand of loyalty and switching bakeries? That said it may be only a contributing reason for the over-use of the pastor title. @ Arnold Smartarse: I was fed by the sermons that Lon Solomon preached during the past year that I attended MBC. Most bakeries by this time will start feeling the cash flow pinch. Uniformity of the product and driving down of the raw cost of goods is next on the agenda. He finally harped so much on Radical that my family left Brook Hills after 4 years, spiritually drained and exhausted. The early church did without them for centuries, and was pretty effective. Thanks for asking . Nothing compares to knowing Him! One can improve the business by power of advertising and might of distribution. A lot of people love David Platt but I am not a fan, and the idea that he can lead the IMB and spend that much time on one sermon per week, while trying to raise a family and be a godly man, is astonishing to me. Usually didnt pay or didnt pay much. We made funerals and weddings church events when they never were in Bible times. A spiritual birth which transforms someone into a true Christian, a saint, by the activity of the Holy Spirit. See Matthew 3:11; John 3:3-8; 7:39; 14:17; 20:22; Acts 2:38; Romans 8:2-26; 14:17; 1 Corinthians 2:10-12; 3:16; 6:11-19; 12:13; 2 Corinthians 3:3; 17-18; Galatians 3:2-5, 14; 4:6; Ephesians 1:13; 3:16; 4:30; 5:18; Philippians 2:1; 1 Thessalonians 4:8; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Timothy 1:14; Titus 3:5; Hebrews 6:4; 1 Peter 1:2,22; 1 John 3:24; 4:13; Jude 1:20. Most pastor positions are salaried. Its a fair question. This is a network of churches Smyth started while preaching in South Africa and is attempting to expand into the USA, but again, it doesnt appear to me that CLC members are getting an honest days work for the salary they are paying Smyth, but the average member doesnt seem overly concerned about that. one person i talked to went to so far as to say we cant allow this, or else our tax-exempt status would be jeopardized. Find a pastor who will do your funeral and not punt it to the third tier pastoral staff. Cheaper.only pay one pastor and get double the offerings? Thanks for chiming in! Yes mission is important but it is the means, not the end. The blind are unable to discern and the lame are unable to walk by faith. Conferences. No pastor that is paid full-time could say that and be hired or kept on in a Baptist church. They are very thoughtful about these sorts of things, actually. Next week, we will address some of the explanations by the other commentators. Viewing David Platts past online sermon videos smack of the same toxic religious syndrome in store for MBC members as well. I came across the Disasko reference here. He even had the nerve to say he was leaving the church in the best shape it had ever been in and its history! So far they havent bothered us too much about the whole covenant signing thing, but Im concerned Whats going to happen when the new church covenant to replace the old (two churches are merging) comes in, and the push comes to get everyone to sign the new one? Sounds like he has taken Thom Rainers advice. So we rarely, if ever, get to hear about them. Those who know Christ (theo) best are better suited to ministry, not those who know sinners (socio) best. Lots of kids to boot. Best to believe and follow Jesus, rather than in any man. However, I can tell you as a senior pastor type that its hard to find the funding to hire enough pastors to make that a reality. For leadership (in Timothy and Titus) is predicated upon godly character traits and just one skill, apt to teach. McLean Bible Church is the church of my childhood (Lon Solomon is a personal family friend) and my husband came to know Christ at MBC. Notes: I wish I was left to be a layperson. Nonprofits are one of my fields of research. 3. a member of the clergy. He believed, and I also think, that is was part of its success. And there is now a DidaskoFellowship of churches which is about to set up a Didasko Presbytery. I look forward to reading what she has to say about the sexual abuse coverup in the church her ex-husband, Joshua was senior pastor. Mr Platt aint got nuttin on Mr Crazy Buzy DeYoung. *looks skyward, whistles*. Could you comment on that? Running a huge bureaucracy like the IMB is no fun, and a huge church can be a rush if you go for that kind of thing and have staff to take care of the administrative stuff. But were also jaded when it comes to the typical format of church. I visited his church a number of times when my kids were in college in Birmingham. OK, Dont let the door hit your tutu on the way out! Seriously, is this Hollywood or the church of Jesus Christ? Some of the classes taught by laymembers at MBC are outstanding. Its much better to have the Holy Spirit glory Christ in me, than I trying to be intentional about it. Personally, I respect organization, but my most pressing need is for substance. Bet it was said with a disarming smile. In a 35 minute sermon, how much time would you think was spent either reading from the Bible or explaining with those versus meant? This feeding of the flock is via the Word of God and given out with a piece of oneself. So if someone says they want a handholding pastor rather than someone preaching the truth of the Word, we can accept that. Perhaps David Platt can get some pointers from Kevin DeYoung. We need a place to exercise our gifts, and to receive those of others connected to the body and functioning. I have read all his books and eagerly take notes from every sermon. The bread is indicative of the Bread of Life, and the lighted candlestick indicates someones home the presence of the Holy Spirit. Tell me want to do/believe, and I will do it, I do not want to figure it my self to much work and, 2. He clearly could not know everyone by name as our capacity as humanssociologically speakingtaps out at around 150 (if you look at the literature). I. and to piggy back.. at MBC platt was speaking about salvation and missions.. and i quote reason you were saved is to go on missions.. not b/c God loves u.. not b/c God wants to spend eternity w/ u.. etc. Yeah, church life wont keep theologians in check. Find a pastor who will do your funeral and not punt it to the third tier pastoral staff. Ok, maybe Im missing something but hes offering to preach for free. As I think its all going NGO working with the UN and Feds for some of the billions out there. Why we think we can somehow be in authority over anyone else spiritually? If one then takes this approach and looks at a goodly number of other things in scripture which Christians argue about one finds a lot more leeway in scripture than apparently some folks want to tolerate in todays church culture and practice. Case in point; many years ago my mother, a widow, attended a small church. Now that I know what Im withoutYou cant just leave me -Bring Me To Life (1), 501(c)3 calvinesta stealthy church rape'(tm), has found its way as a serious topic of Christian public discussion, showing up in various forms of media: books, scholarly white papers, blogs, internet and radio talk shows, and church podium warnings all around the country. It was all titles and nonsense. (But seriously, 20-25 hrs a week on prep? WE need to correct others, and we need to be able to receive correction. Find a pastor who will do your funeral and not punt it to the third tier pastoral staff. Then I had to remember all the sermons I had listend to and how deeply moved I was by his heart for Missions and Jesus. Prayer Requests The teaching became ever more shallow, the focus shifted from sound teaching to pop-culture issues and my husband and I believe thats what set it up to bring Platt in. And in most of these churches, members arent allowed to do much ministry either, because they have paid staff for that who make 4-10x more than the average member of the congregation. What their job is, without exception, is pastoring a church for expats. Of course, were they to turn it into a profit center and start renting it out for profit, thatd be different, but nothing in the tax code stops them from performing a community service like that. I am taking a seminary course at the moment on pastoral leadership in a conservative seminary. __. My Comment was Deleted He has spent some of those weeks off preaching at Advance conferences. 12, Eph. Mohler does as he pleases, as far as I can tell. I hear some of you saying that you want a personal interaction with a pastor. The leadership is far to often unaware of, or opposed to, the real church that sometimes begins to form. 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