Sign up for free IELTS webinars and prep material, Saba University School of Medicine, SGU has an attrition rate of less than 10% Again, the stats are available, just look at them on their website. I graduated from school in 2004. In the United States, more and more graduates are choosing specialtiescardiology, radiology, urologyover primary care, which pays less. The title 4 loans keep increasing every semester with no oversight. People are going to give you both what you deserve and what you dont deserve. You might not be accustomed to the standard of living, and its definitely outside of your comfort zone. Financially, I did not have resources to finish in 4 years. Simple as that. You just drop out when you run out of money.. 400 students accepted. I was impressed when I saw their loan facilities because Im a graduate of pharmacology in Nigeria and I have been considering studying medicine abroad. The islands might not be the right race for you, it doesnt mean you are weak, but they just might not be for you. Not only that but, my school has such a great diversity of students that it is so cool when the students offer you a place to stay anytime you plan a trip. Youve met 1.9 GPA no-MCAT med students. I feel that a lot of what was said above is a gross exaggeration. I decided to apply here because I have five friends who came to this school and they are practicing in the US without any problems or delays in their careers. I have to wait a whole year for residency. When youre done, everyone will still ask you for the money. I share your vision and believe in your work. Please PLEASE do not come to AUA. However, the requirements to get into these schools are much higher because they know that the students they are admitting will do the extra work and go above and beyond to be successful. A teacher harassing you for not tying your hair back and wearing gloves (just to pretend ur in gross anatomy lab) will then remove the organs and put them back together for an hour while u watch in awe before (my fav part) standing in line to wash ur hands like you just scrubbed out of surgery in the same big metal sinks with faucet pedals lmao. In 1998 to 2004 classes much smaller. But we also teach them some of the more complex subjects of medical school. Was no walk in the park, you needed to devote 1000% focus on studying and clinical time. I think what is missing is the transparency on the part of the schools. They will ALL tell you it was HELL. Now that Im in my last semester it seems all worth it. That is after uSMLEs and matching. This is unethical, fraud, immoral and something needs to be done about it. My name is saron and Im a dreamer who would like to be a great physician and I was wondering if any one would like to help me about the reall truth in caribbean MS because Im really thinking enrolling in it. 2022 Saba University School of Medicine. It wasnt as intense as some of the Island schools. Sorry, you go there just to memorize few booklets to pass the boards without even having the basic knowledge of treating the patients. It is my mission. I appreciate your post. If not after you get ECFMG certified there is only a 50% match rate for IMG both US and non US citizen. Here is my 2 cents: The goal of this post is to provide prospective medical students with some information that will likely not be volunteered to you by the admissions office of the school. Maarten, the island nation of Saba is small, quiet and extremely safe with something for everyone to enjoy: from quaint villages and mountain hiking trails to pristine scuba diving and well-regarded inns and restaurants.. How long is Saba med school? NY, Canada, etc) you can receive more. Retake retake retake and reapply! He had a 4.0 sgpa, and would definitely be able to get into US schools but that would set us back a year and a half. Agree. Deceptive. Career Highlights. There has to exist a certain desperation to succeed in Medical school which I did not have. More than 3,000+ Saba graduates now practice medicine across the U.S. and Canada, and their ongoing success has helped cement Sabas reputation as a leading medical school. He said that the thing he liked is that SABA gave him the chance to become a physician in the United States. But wait there is much more! Theres a year of Internado and one of Social Service. The American students that apply for this school either 1. were not smart enough to get into a school in the United States or 2. were not working hard enough. I thought Id offer a different perspective from a current M2 SGU student, in response to the points made in this post. Like I said earlier, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SUCCESS regardless of where you attend medical school. Pluses are that class sizes are small. I wanted to finally speak up. If you have no business becoming a doctor, you will be in for a lot of hurt at any of those programs. The Caribbean schools are definitely a place where you should go if only after examining yourself deeply and after your plan how to release your stresses. Do not rely on guidelines to remain as they are. This is borderline criminal that these stats arent made public or readily available to potential Caribbean Medical Students. By 2030, according to a study commissioned by the Association of American Medical Colleges, the United States will be short at least forty thousand doctors, and perhaps as many as a hundred thousand. What he did not like was the attrition rate at SABA. All rights reserved. Caribbean medical schools have a bit of a reputation for being easier options to get into. My cumulative gpa is 3.98, that was with working as a nurses aid. Ive gotten As and Bs in my first two years and so far all As for my core rotations and electives. Wow. Would you recommend that. We were charged 3-4 times what the locals were charged and were basically the schools cash cow. Each year, more than 100 students are accepted into its MD program as well as over 100 students that participate in its elective programs. Take a look at the staff of a couple of dozen medical groups and youll find that there are many graduates of Caribbean medical schools. Never learned anything in depth for long retention. It stands to reason that if any student can do that, they are capable. The tuition and fees listed above apply, on the one hand, to matriculants on or before the May 2021 semester and, on the other hand, to matriculants on or after the September 2021 semester as the case may be. But compared to data surrounding similar Caribbean schools like St. Georges Medical School in Grenada (at 41%), this might be an incorrect assumption. By the way the same company that is majority share holder of SGU bought prometric in 2018. They can change the grading layout the number of exams they plan to give a semester. Info came directly from admissions committee. Thats really all anybody needs to know. We are given a vague outline and need to get through the tests and STEP with high scores. I have friends who bombed out of the big three and did finish med school at an even lower tiered school. So did you decide to join SGU?? Scholarships of up to $110K for students of the U.S and up to $120K for Canadian Students. If you decide to study on the islands, save yourself from comparing to the USA except if it something related to getting a good score. I wouldnt take that risk when you have hundreds of thousands of dollars at stake. Hi, I would like to get in contact with you just to speak to you and ask you a couple of questions about attending medical school in the Caribbean, would that be possible by any change? Many students do this. The school's website is available here. Now go and become a Doctor !!!!! Even had the dean of medicine call me into his office that was essentially harrasment. It is up to you to do your research before embarking on that journey. The US went over 30 years without adding a new MD program. My brother graduated from SGU in 2011. If you want a warm and fuzzy feeling and are not used to fighting for what you want, instead of waiting for it, then medical school is not for you 3. This is definitely on the low end compared to the average U.S. med school GPA of 3.71 (Source). I got accepted into all 4. There are lots of lawyer at USA for wrong thing so why there no lawyer for any kids and fix the system? Phillip was impressed by his story, and by E.L.A.M.s philosophy of offering a free education for students who pledged to practice medicine in low-income, medically underserved areas. Need some advice PLEASE! Most of the struggle comes from the first year when you are finding out your learning style and finding what resources work for you. Find out more here. St James doesnt even qualify for federal loans. Sorry for the delayed reply Get out while you still can. If you want to be a surgeon you work for it, if you want to serve the underserved, you guessed it, YOU WORK FOR IT!! Any advise from experience is very helpful.Thank you. That must be stated that the morally bankrupt are not from here. I actually enjoyed my med 1 courses and like youve mentioned, I met some amazing people. When it comes to Caribbean medical schools, I think there are a lot of both pros and cons. Good luck! Many of the classes are taught by professors that also conduct research in that area. For those willing to succeed and work hard this school has provided an opportunity for that dream. My biggest concern for any Caribbean school is the ECFMG 2023 policy that would essentially be shutting down all access to the US. helped littleexcept throwing paperwork at us. Always have other thoughts in your head, about life; so that if you stumble, fall, get depressed, you will find a reason to get up and live and pursue something. Please can you inbox me to guide me at tracey.ozoh@yahoo.com. I miss her. Yes, it was hard to adjust to island life (especially the hurricanes!) You will get discouraged and depressed sometimes. I am also trying to get as many rotations in the Atlanta area as possible or near to Atlanta (or direct flight to Atlanta) in the event she does live with her dad. I finished my undergraduate degree with alot of upper level science courses but they do not fit the over all pre reqs most schools in the US require. Since I am unable to get into a US medical school, I am applying to SGU. Students can setup a meeting anytime with DES for advising/tutoring/etc.. The amount of knowledge you are expected to consume and the rate and consistency is so insane. Hi Sandy, Im in a somewhat similar situation trying to decide on Caribbean schools. If they miss even a single day, they get their wages docked. These are forced attritions, and these Schools must not be allowed to over-induct more than their capacity. People that do that end up suicidal. I went to Noreste in Tampico 30+ years ago. Sounds like St. Georges University to me. Its a lot of work but I promise you it will pay off. European accreditation: Because Saba is a Dutch island, Saba is accredited by the Netherlandsmaking it the only medical school in the Caribbean held to high European standards. Preparation leads to perfection and Sabas results are comparable with the top medical school programs in the country. They dont push themselves with studying. I have tons of research and Clinical exp as well. I am Registered Nurse and over thirty five and thinking about going for MD in the Caribbean medical school. The avg. And although youll still need to match those admissions criteria (by no means easy), its probably a lot easier to do so than it would be matching any other medical school state-side. I have been a licensed practicing physician for almost 20 years and I have no regrets!! All of our lectures are recorded on Echo360, so attendance is not required, so I just sit in my lovely brand new condo here that looks onto the bay and do my class work for most of the day. In fact they may be targeted first. I wish I had the hindsight before I went into undergraduate school to pursue a pre-med education. Thanks for reading. They do not have to tell the student. I am an AUA med 5 student and having difficulty passing NAME. Upon reflection research, AUA did not uphold the accreditation standards they were mandated to uphold. We also have a health clinic on campus that also takes emergencies 24/7. Yet, with only a 17% acceptance rate at Canadian medical schools, getting accepted to medical school amongst 13 000 applicants was like shooting a dart in the dark and hitting bullseye. Saba Medical School is another of your options when you are considering Caribbean medical schools. Is it worth it? I imagine that you have now made this decision for yourself, and I imagine that the law of averages would suggest you did not finish at Saba, but maybe managed to transfer on from there. 5) Students who can not self study and teach themselves the material fail. Before a race when doing track, you thought about the track and you thought about if you can handle what you are about to do, and you planned or imagined yourself running the race and the speed that you needed. Everything I have found/researched looks promising. The fact that Saba takes so few students (around 90 per year), may point to a fairly low acceptance rate. Currently my student loan debt is $640,000.00 no wait, its $642,000.00. They have great resources and a few really great professors that truly do care about you and your education. Saba is also one of the most estabilished and long running schools in the Caribbean, founded in 1993. I started with sgu in 1998. The curriculum? Is Saba University a good medical school? They have campuses located in the US that I am able to attend live lectures at. You cant take STEP 1 until youve passed it and you get three chances to pass it. My boss whose a IM doctor/director of a hospital hazed me all the way through. You might stand your mouth is open in surprise; while some people just say ah, its just the way how things are around here. I am Pharmacist in 40s with a child and I will start this year .I appreciate if we you can discuss with me your experience. However, instead of doing whatever you have or had to do to be successful, you pass the blame on the school. I was very skeptical before I came here of course, but this school, IMO will allow you to have your sanity while going through these 2 tough years of basic sciences. Its literally a curriculum on crack. I am from Nigeria and after high school, I moved to the United States for undergrad. Student Mentor. I am a fmg practicing neat Washington DC internal medicine . DID get it back but it was a Huge hassle. But it does only accept around 95 students per year! Our school placed a random selection of students in a motel 5 miles from campus. I want to fill you in on what really goes on behind the scenes at my medical school and maybe you can help inform other students about what happens here before they make a huge mistake. Currently in the U.S. there lots of DO schools springing up left and right, and most of them are for profit. Those 2 years were very hard because they involved feeling homesick and dealing with constant studying for exams and difficult coursework. Hard to paint with a broad stroke here as so many factors are involved; however, the main point that I think we can all agree on is that these schools should not be deceptive with students. Students are eligible for U.S. Federal and Canadian Provincial Loans The failure in the eyes of my family. Everyone will have a different experience and deal with it differently. Am I breezing through school of course not. I decided to go through the arduous task of preparing my AMAC application and apply to the few schools that did not require all prerequisites within the last 5 years. No we dont have it, but you can get the 4th edition if you like, theres not much of a difference Besides meeting the admissions criteria, its as good idea as any to make sure you follow the process as smoothly as you can. But, if you really want to become a physician, you have to think about your priorities in life and decide if you want to spend another year trying to get accepted in the US or rather start sooner than later in a Caribbean school. If we dont achieve 80% attendance, the school may or may not discount some percentage of your grade (1%-5%) but it is an exaggeration that a student automatically fails the semester for not achieving the 80% attendance. Id love to pick your brain about Ross. I even did a short visiting lecture series at one of the best Caribbean medical schools. If you are willing to go through whatever comes your way, then the Caribbean is for you; go get that MD. Furthermore, there are times where the law enforcement and other emergency response agencies are incompetent, prejudice, or straight up corrupt. In the meantime, given I left that med school with no degree (came in right out of highschool), I continued my schooling in the US. ; Participants can check in at the Broadway entrance of Lerner Hall upon arrival. Its accreditation is with NVAO, the accreditation organization of Netherlands and Flanders. To answer your question, the new curriculum change was adapted only 2 years or 4 semesters ago so major changes are still happening. Its one thing to recruit people that have high skills, Bryan Hodge, the director of the Hendersonville program, told me. You see that with relationships, after many years marriages that no-one ever thought will fail, fail. Check out this keynote and answer the 7 questions at the end then maybe we can talk. I, too came from a Caribbean medical school and am almost finished with my residency training. I was just wondering how the past year has been for you at AUA. I know countless ex-caribe Med students that are in limbo now and owe thousands of dollars in loans with nothing to show for it!. Nutshell version. Is Saba a good med school? Its just not US, and not all students are going to make it. Saba University was the only medical school in the Netherlands Antilles that earned accreditation, and thus was the only medical school to be allowed to stay in those islands. The guy didnt even know simple generic names for Zyrtec or such a thing as pericarditis. Meanwhile, the cost of medical school has skyrocketed; the median student debt for the class of 2016 was a hundred and ninety thousand dollars. But US Steps/hospitals will make IMGs jump through a lot of hoops additional requirements for not being a medical school in the US even though its the same exact books, anatomage, cadavers,etc. If you cheated or something, theyd I realize that this comment was posted more than 2 years ago, nonetheless, I could not help to concur and share some updated events happening in AUA. I need to know my chances as an Indian student. With a 2.0 gpa admission cut-off, people with below average academic performance can pay their tuition to SJSM and attend medical school. The point of this one example is that the school is run by advantage takers. It would literally be impossible for them University to match as many people as the do every year and have a 40% attrition rate. Personally, I think Saba has a lot to offer that perhaps many students first overlook. Which they did by the way to the semester 1 students. Hey, Lee search BS/MD programs. Then there are times when I had to take a leave and not know if I will ever find my way back in after losing finances. It is a sinking ship. The tuition is high, before you go in, decide to give your all, but if you dont make it you have already calculated and thought about what you could do to help yourself. Thinking Med school. Perhaps more people than deserve one. Why does your comment about minorities seem like they just give any minority a seat at Med School dont they also have the requisite grades? They let in about 700 for the January starting class which are on different schedules and have a smaller lecture hall to accommodate a smaller class. Hello dears, But i think it doesnt mean at all universities are less worthy. Just facts. projector for the Anatomy professoryou were exempt from finals. Susan Atchly was a very good friend of mine! This is actually beneficial for those living off campus. 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